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title: "How OSS Conquered the World: Insight from Veteran Developers"
description: "FOSSA staff engineer Konstantin Gredeskoul and Oxide Computer Company's co-founder Bryan Cantrill discuss the development and impact of open source software in an informative and entertaining podcast."
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markdown_url: "https://fossa.com/blog/how-oss-conquered-world-insight-veteran-developers.md"
content_type: "blog"
language: "en"
date_published: "2021-03-12"
date_modified: "2021-03-12"
author: "Konstantin Gredeskoul"
organization: "FOSSA"
---
# How OSS Conquered the World: Insight from Veteran Developers
> FOSSA staff engineer Konstantin Gredeskoul and Oxide Computer Company's co-founder Bryan Cantrill discuss the development and impact of open source software in an informative and entertaining podcast.
FOSSA staff engineer and serial startup CTO **Konstantin Gredeskoul** is joined by **Bryan Cantrill**, the co-founder and CTO at Oxide Computer Company, for an informative and entertaining podcast on open source software.
The two veteran developers take listeners on a journey from the earliest days of open source to present, chronicling the highs and lows along the way. They also address important elements of [open source licenses from a developer's perspective](https://fossa.com/developers-guide-open-source-software-licenses), including warranty disclosures, contributors, copyright notices, and more.
Finally, Bryan and Konstantin discuss the fate of MySQL, and opine on ZSH, Bash, and TCSH.
You can access the recording by [clicking here](https://soundcloud.com/fossa-engineering-podcast/how-oss-conquered-the-world-insight-from-veteran-developers?si=376a4d330fda47ec9f231cf3feb05be3&utm_source=clipboard&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=social_sharing).
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## Segments
**Start - 2:45**: Introduction
**2:45 - 6:00**: Predictions on open source: Did Bryan and Konstantin expect it to get this big? And why do they think open source will continue to grow?
**6:00 - 20:45**: Reflections on shareware and the origins of open source and software development, including the eternal September of 1993, usenet, and the Australian Internet Awards
**20:45 - 24:30**: Open source licenses that surprised
**24:30 - 32:00**: The relationship between open source licenses and patents
**32:00 - 44:00**: Thoughts on the [MIT License](https://fossa.com/blog/open-source-licenses-101-mit-license.md), GPL, and the philosophies and principles behind stronger and weaker OSS licenses.
**44:00 - 47:15**: Copyright notices
**47:15 - 50:30**: Warranty disclosures
**50:30 - 56:00**: What happened to MySQL
**56:00 - 105:30**: Closing and re-licensing open source projects, and perspectives on listing project contributors in copyright notices
**105:30 - 107:45**: Why Bryan likes the [Apache License 2.0](https://fossa.com/blog/open-source-licenses-101-apache-license-2-0.md) and Mozilla Public License 2.0
**107:45 - Close**: Thoughts on shells like ZSH, Bash, and TCSH
## About the Participants
**Bryan Cantrill, Co-founder and CTO at Oxide Computer Company**
Bryan Cantrill is a pioneer of systems software. From
the guts of the kernel to client-code on the browser and much in between, he's helped spearhead
numerous developments. Along the way he's helped design, implement, and ship DTrace, a facility
for systemic dynamic instrumentation, co-founded the Fishworks group at Sun, and (prior to being
Joyent's CTO) was VP of Engineering at Joyent, where he built out the teams responsible for the
core technology portfolio. Bryan is also a popular speaker at technology conferences, with
appearances at USENIX, LISA, OSCON, Velocity, and Surge, among others.
**Konstantin Gredeskoul, Staff Software Engineer at FOSSA, Serial Startup CTO**
Konstantin Gredeskoul is a veteran software engineer, architect, and
CTO. He's spent more than two decades building web software, working at every level of the stack,
including architecture, DevOps automation, front-end, and feature development. He’s served as CTO
of four VC-funded startups and is a frequent speaker at tech conferences across the globe, with
his presentations reaching nearly a million views. Konstantin is an avid open source contributor
who has authored nearly 50 ruby gems with more than 35 million cumulative downloads; he also
contributed to the libraries written in C/C++, CMake, Arduino, Bash, and Chef.
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- [May 2025 FOSSA Product Updates](https://fossa.com/blog/may-2025-product-updates.md): Learn about several recent FOSSA product updates, including container scanning and CycloneDX report improvements.
- [Annotate Dependencies with Context: Introducing Package Labels in FOSSA](https://fossa.com/blog/annotate-dependencies-context-introducing-package-labels.md): Introducing FOSSA Package Labels - a powerful way to annotate packages with contextual metadata, enabling more efficient and insightful reporting and filtering.
- [License Compliance, SBOM, and Vulnerability Management for Smaller Teams: FOSSA Business Tier](https://fossa.com/blog/fossa-business-tier.md): FOSSA introduces a new business tier tailored for smaller teams, offering flexible pricing and comprehensive features for SBOM, vulnerability management, and license compliance.
- [Fall 2024 Software Licensing Roundup](https://fossa.com/blog/fall-2024-software-licensing-roundup.md): Explore the significant licensing stories of fall 2024, including Elastics return to open source, the new fair source licensing model, and the PearAI controversy.
## Source
Canonical page: https://fossa.com/blog/how-oss-conquered-world-insight-veteran-developers/